Girgis Bishay professor of theology Balxlarkih
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Antar Abdellatif
Monday, November 8, 2010 - 12:56
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Mustafa Abdel-Raouf Ahmed Girgis Bishay Gerges, so named after the convert to Islam, and that was before the monk human Girgis Bishay professor faculty clerical, said he converted to Islam in 1993, was formally adopted "Muslim" in 2002, refusing to talk about his journey to Islam.
In the first dialogues media stressed that opens under which shot himself to referring to the doctrine of the Trinity and steel in the "Christian", narrated trip Convert to Islam, and how he taught to question the Vgelbh to announce his conversion to Islam, and waive dues to his brothers, and how Wife someone he met mosque Hussein for his daughter .. We asked him:
* Why insist on pronunciation of your full name?
- The purpose of the pronunciation of my name the boat "Mustafa Abdel-Raouf Ahmed Girgis Bishay George" that the Messenger of Allah say: "Zaid me and I him, him to me and what I have to." The companions - God bless them - say: "Zaid bin Mohammed"; verse was revealed: {invite them to their parents is a premium on God} [parties: 5]. Not adopt Islam; to Vasmi compound after an Islamic declaration of Mustafa Abdel-Raouf Ahmed, and the rest of the name of my father and grandfather.
* Why exited silence now?
- Jesus says: What earns a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul. The Oazna God's blessing of Islam.
I wish to announce an Islamic Before that, P "because God guide your man one is better for you than red camels." This dialogue may be the cause of God to guide those who are in error, and illuminates insight non-Muslims.
* Are there and gave one of them on your hand as you say?
- Has already happened, and I have a copy of the image to convert to Islam and his personal card.
* What about your journey from Christianity to Islam?
- Grew up in a Christian family, and I say Christian, although Christians like the launch of the word Copts themselves, a word that means all Egyptians, not Christians, and after I finished preparatory certificate went to school Alalkerkih and became a pillar in the church and Professor them, and began studying religion and the Islamic faith is not love in Islam at all, but to find loopholes to discredit the Islamic faith, but doubt Muslims themselves, and was commissioned internally and stems from my faith in Christianity, you would not know That calamity, although I know Valmuseibh horrible, and Saket on the right dumb devil, and the human is not responsible for the beginning or choose his religion or name.
** Always hesitate words theology and manhood, what does this mean?
- Things the church is divided into two parts of the divinity and humanity of theology is everything related to the divinity of Jesus Christ which are not up for discussion, while manhood is regards to the Christian life. And Astvzna in Islam and then it calls into question the crucifixion of Christ, so I started my expansion, and asked: Why does Islam say that Christ is not God? Vaaatarana doubt it is God and I?!! The Bible says: God sent his only Son so as not to destroy all who believe in Him, how God's son left for the Jews even kill him?! For example, if hitting someone my son Vodaf faith to defend him, and if we assume that it is God who came down the ground in the image of Christ and died, whatever his image whether it is the father or the son or the Holy Spirit, remained dead for three days then on the third day, a festival of Resurrection, it is ran the universe during these three days during the death of God, does the universe turned himself or is there the power of his administration? If the universe has turned himself and for a moment the power of his administration, will dispense with the Creator and his presence, but if there was moderated universe instead of God the Living Dead is worthy of worship - laughing - "living kept from the dead." The God who died weaker than the existing God, if we assume that Jesus is God. So he is the creator and manufacturer, it is the strongest manufacturer or made. Of course the manufacturer. How overcomes made the manufacturer, God created Adam and Adam disobeyed God; therefore rappel Adam to the ground and was able to return Adam to paradise again, then Vrbena not need to fall to the ground himself; to atone for the sin of Adam, and if we assume that Jews are Christ killers and Jews descendants of Adam, how the creature that kills the Creator!!
* Why suspect began in the doctrine of the Trinity? Rejected and why?
- The doctrine of the Trinity complementary deity and Steel and the doctrine of the Trinity says: "In the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit, one God, Amen." This means that God is three, and if we use mathematical equations we get to that one in three by three, not one, how is Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and one says the verse in the Bible: "His divinity not die His humanity blink of an eye!" Theology is God the father the son does not die the blink of an eye, but splits when the son died and the heart of the cross, and I like myself who was blind and went to the doctor make sighting and see the light, does this man can close his eyes again? Shops, as well as the blessing of Islam.
* What about the rest of your criticism of Christianity and you say in the case of the crucifixion of Christ?
- If we assume that there is a human being holds Cirbeja and whenever he saw people ينهال him with, is this person will love Alcirbej? Shops, as well as the cross is an instrument of torture was punished by the criminals and Christians themselves say about Jesus Christ that carry the cross of shame, how revere shame? How love Alcirbej "cross"? The father will not come down to earth for a mistake committed by the creature and Son means human rights and eat and drink and go out, is it plausible that the holy God Tahir holds "impurity"? If the Qur'an says: {and peace on the day I was born and the day I die and the day I send alive * Jesus son of Mary [Mary: 33, 34], and says: {Venfajna it from our spirit} [prohibition: 12]. If Jesus was the son of Mary of the Spirit of God, and the Spirit of God will give him the right to divinity, so a living god; because every living organism carries spirit, and the spirit of God.
* Some believe that Christ was crucified to atone for the sin of Adam .. What is your response?
- We did not talk enough in the case of the crucifixion of Christ, where Christians affirm that the statement in the Koran not to the crucifixion of Christ is just nonsense; because God - the bulk of the Almighty - says in the Holy Qur'an: {what killed him and crucified him, but they almost} [Women: 157] . And steel, as we said was severe criminal punishment of crime is the harshest punishment as a penalty now, any offense committed by God to be crucified! And say stamped the sin of Adam void, if talking crazy, sane listener - laughs - What is the importance of rights even God come down from his throne to the ground! Says the Lord of Glory in the Hadith Qudsi about himself: "O My servants, if that is permitted Akhrkm and إنسكم and جنكم were fearing heart of one man you what increased in royal nothing, O My servants, if that is permitted Akhrkm and إنسكم and جنكم were blow heart of one man, what shortage Royal nothing. "
** In any churches served? What is the difference between the priest and the monk?
- I grew up in the Virgin Mary Church in Shubra, and served in the churches of Alexandria and Assiut. Ranks ecclesiastical types, including the monk and the second priest, a doing Masses in the monasteries, and there Father and the priest and Bishop, and conditions monasticism not to marry, must also pastor to get married, and I got a degree Professor monk in the Orthodox Church, and the fact that monasticism heresy "and all innovation is misguidance, and every misguidance in the fire, "monasticism was not in the days of Jesus Christ.
* What about the pre-Islamic Christian family?
- Abu teacher Girgis Bishay George was a great merchant Brod vagina, and I do not like to talk about my family I will not go into personal matters, says Salman Farsi: "The Son of Islam". When he said this, the Messenger of Allah be pleased with him said: "Salman us home." I quote the words of the Apostle: "and Ahawkah, and Ahawkah". Farouk said to him, Omar bin al-Khattab: "to". Prophet said: "to Ohbabi". Farouk said: "Are not we loved ones, O Messenger of Allah?" Prophet said: "You are my friends, The Ohbabi who come after me and did not see me." How looking for Ezz greater glory and the blessing of Islam!!
* Are there processes preach Christianity church while you?
- I refuse to talk about preaching in the church, although I hope to be who told them the Messenger of Allah: "The best of you learn the Qur'an and teach it." I hope to be the cause of entering non-Muslims to Islam, and if we recognize that our master Jesus be our Islam underperform; therefore I refuse to go into what was going on in the church, and not even said: I hereby them washing "Dirt"; delegations Islam urged us to respect Judaism and Christianity, says God: Safe apostle in what was revealed to him from his Lord and the believers all believe in Allah and His angels, His Books, His Messengers do not differentiate between any of His messengers and say We hear and obey Your forgiveness Our Lord and determination [Baqarah: 285].
* Are you convinced Islam or could bounce him?
- Messenger of Allah say: "left in you that تمسكتم will never go astray after me, the Book of Allah and my Sunnah, and introduce the years does not belong to me." He says: "queuing up to you Nations also flock to the bowl." Said: I believe the lack of us, O Messenger of Allah? He said: "but then you lot, but you Torrent Cgthae, and emitting God in your hearts weakness." And intended to undercut the love of the world and hatred of death. Muslims have forgotten God, فأنساهم themselves.
* Have you kept the Koran? What do you think of the Muslims now?
- Saved the 4 parts of the Koran, and getting ready to finish two others, and all this thanks to God; P "because God guide your man is better for you that you have the red camels." When safest one people at the hands ascertained credibility first, that I sat down with him, and when confirmed his readiness after I told him: "If the Muslims will find the poorest of them, not weaker them; because they were oppressed Fastdafhm God, if you want to convert to Islam for ways material, it is better for you to remain in your place. " After Tigueni of belief in Islam, God guided him to the true religion.
* I was a monk banned from marriage, is still without marriage?
- Married girl man who utensils after Islamist, a darling and not Nsepe, and Lord bless it and his family and heal him of his illnesses, which Haj Mohammed Mohammed Abbas Rajab, who was working بالمطاحن and now retired, I met him by chance in Rehab master Hassan and I say this despite being a secret so do not waste the reward of the righteous, and the man told me that God blessed with three sons and three daughters, and I will be his fourth son, and said: "Your wife of my daughter." And he promised me that he will help me although everyone a simple case, and I stayed with him in his hometown of Zagazig pending the completion of a declaration of Islam, and he would say to those who see me at home: I recently his family, and came to visit them from Cairo to not exposes the embarrassment, and after the completion of the procedures established me concert Zagazig and after Spouses daughter and gave me accommodation in the arcades, and I have been working in the factories security guard, unfortunately faced some harassment of Christians who knew my story, I was working good salary in a factory, and was director Christian Vojberna to leave work to do in the Sweets in Bab sea.
* Do you have the money before Aatnaqk Islam? Where has this money gone?
- I have a stake in the place of the transit market seized upon my brothers, since he converted to Islam and until now I did not get my share in this shop, both yield profits for this period or capital, and ask only to recover my right.
** Not feel intimidated and you destroy pillars of Christianity in this way?
- I know for certain that this talk will open the fire of hell, though, so I say to my brothers non-Muslims: The religion of God is Islam, {And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam will not accept it is in the Hereafter} [Al-Imran: 85]. Though أتيقن not what I say, I swear to God I had embraced Islam.
* What about college clerical work? Any research conducted?
- Xlarkih theology is equal to the Faculty of Theology at Al-Azhar, I do not want to go study it and study it; not even say I am months the church.
Source: Egyptian newspaper Sawt al-Umma.
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.
Antar Abdellatif
Monday, November 8, 2010 - 12:56
3
Mustafa Abdel-Raouf Ahmed Girgis Bishay Gerges, so named after the convert to Islam, and that was before the monk human Girgis Bishay professor faculty clerical, said he converted to Islam in 1993, was formally adopted "Muslim" in 2002, refusing to talk about his journey to Islam.
In the first dialogues media stressed that opens under which shot himself to referring to the doctrine of the Trinity and steel in the "Christian", narrated trip Convert to Islam, and how he taught to question the Vgelbh to announce his conversion to Islam, and waive dues to his brothers, and how Wife someone he met mosque Hussein for his daughter .. We asked him:
* Why insist on pronunciation of your full name?
- The purpose of the pronunciation of my name the boat "Mustafa Abdel-Raouf Ahmed Girgis Bishay George" that the Messenger of Allah say: "Zaid me and I him, him to me and what I have to." The companions - God bless them - say: "Zaid bin Mohammed"; verse was revealed: {invite them to their parents is a premium on God} [parties: 5]. Not adopt Islam; to Vasmi compound after an Islamic declaration of Mustafa Abdel-Raouf Ahmed, and the rest of the name of my father and grandfather.
* Why exited silence now?
- Jesus says: What earns a man if he gain the whole world and lose his own soul. The Oazna God's blessing of Islam.
I wish to announce an Islamic Before that, P "because God guide your man one is better for you than red camels." This dialogue may be the cause of God to guide those who are in error, and illuminates insight non-Muslims.
* Are there and gave one of them on your hand as you say?
- Has already happened, and I have a copy of the image to convert to Islam and his personal card.
* What about your journey from Christianity to Islam?
- Grew up in a Christian family, and I say Christian, although Christians like the launch of the word Copts themselves, a word that means all Egyptians, not Christians, and after I finished preparatory certificate went to school Alalkerkih and became a pillar in the church and Professor them, and began studying religion and the Islamic faith is not love in Islam at all, but to find loopholes to discredit the Islamic faith, but doubt Muslims themselves, and was commissioned internally and stems from my faith in Christianity, you would not know That calamity, although I know Valmuseibh horrible, and Saket on the right dumb devil, and the human is not responsible for the beginning or choose his religion or name.
** Always hesitate words theology and manhood, what does this mean?
- Things the church is divided into two parts of the divinity and humanity of theology is everything related to the divinity of Jesus Christ which are not up for discussion, while manhood is regards to the Christian life. And Astvzna in Islam and then it calls into question the crucifixion of Christ, so I started my expansion, and asked: Why does Islam say that Christ is not God? Vaaatarana doubt it is God and I?!! The Bible says: God sent his only Son so as not to destroy all who believe in Him, how God's son left for the Jews even kill him?! For example, if hitting someone my son Vodaf faith to defend him, and if we assume that it is God who came down the ground in the image of Christ and died, whatever his image whether it is the father or the son or the Holy Spirit, remained dead for three days then on the third day, a festival of Resurrection, it is ran the universe during these three days during the death of God, does the universe turned himself or is there the power of his administration? If the universe has turned himself and for a moment the power of his administration, will dispense with the Creator and his presence, but if there was moderated universe instead of God the Living Dead is worthy of worship - laughing - "living kept from the dead." The God who died weaker than the existing God, if we assume that Jesus is God. So he is the creator and manufacturer, it is the strongest manufacturer or made. Of course the manufacturer. How overcomes made the manufacturer, God created Adam and Adam disobeyed God; therefore rappel Adam to the ground and was able to return Adam to paradise again, then Vrbena not need to fall to the ground himself; to atone for the sin of Adam, and if we assume that Jews are Christ killers and Jews descendants of Adam, how the creature that kills the Creator!!
* Why suspect began in the doctrine of the Trinity? Rejected and why?
- The doctrine of the Trinity complementary deity and Steel and the doctrine of the Trinity says: "In the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit, one God, Amen." This means that God is three, and if we use mathematical equations we get to that one in three by three, not one, how is Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and one says the verse in the Bible: "His divinity not die His humanity blink of an eye!" Theology is God the father the son does not die the blink of an eye, but splits when the son died and the heart of the cross, and I like myself who was blind and went to the doctor make sighting and see the light, does this man can close his eyes again? Shops, as well as the blessing of Islam.
* What about the rest of your criticism of Christianity and you say in the case of the crucifixion of Christ?
- If we assume that there is a human being holds Cirbeja and whenever he saw people ينهال him with, is this person will love Alcirbej? Shops, as well as the cross is an instrument of torture was punished by the criminals and Christians themselves say about Jesus Christ that carry the cross of shame, how revere shame? How love Alcirbej "cross"? The father will not come down to earth for a mistake committed by the creature and Son means human rights and eat and drink and go out, is it plausible that the holy God Tahir holds "impurity"? If the Qur'an says: {and peace on the day I was born and the day I die and the day I send alive * Jesus son of Mary [Mary: 33, 34], and says: {Venfajna it from our spirit} [prohibition: 12]. If Jesus was the son of Mary of the Spirit of God, and the Spirit of God will give him the right to divinity, so a living god; because every living organism carries spirit, and the spirit of God.
* Some believe that Christ was crucified to atone for the sin of Adam .. What is your response?
- We did not talk enough in the case of the crucifixion of Christ, where Christians affirm that the statement in the Koran not to the crucifixion of Christ is just nonsense; because God - the bulk of the Almighty - says in the Holy Qur'an: {what killed him and crucified him, but they almost} [Women: 157] . And steel, as we said was severe criminal punishment of crime is the harshest punishment as a penalty now, any offense committed by God to be crucified! And say stamped the sin of Adam void, if talking crazy, sane listener - laughs - What is the importance of rights even God come down from his throne to the ground! Says the Lord of Glory in the Hadith Qudsi about himself: "O My servants, if that is permitted Akhrkm and إنسكم and جنكم were fearing heart of one man you what increased in royal nothing, O My servants, if that is permitted Akhrkm and إنسكم and جنكم were blow heart of one man, what shortage Royal nothing. "
** In any churches served? What is the difference between the priest and the monk?
- I grew up in the Virgin Mary Church in Shubra, and served in the churches of Alexandria and Assiut. Ranks ecclesiastical types, including the monk and the second priest, a doing Masses in the monasteries, and there Father and the priest and Bishop, and conditions monasticism not to marry, must also pastor to get married, and I got a degree Professor monk in the Orthodox Church, and the fact that monasticism heresy "and all innovation is misguidance, and every misguidance in the fire, "monasticism was not in the days of Jesus Christ.
* What about the pre-Islamic Christian family?
- Abu teacher Girgis Bishay George was a great merchant Brod vagina, and I do not like to talk about my family I will not go into personal matters, says Salman Farsi: "The Son of Islam". When he said this, the Messenger of Allah be pleased with him said: "Salman us home." I quote the words of the Apostle: "and Ahawkah, and Ahawkah". Farouk said to him, Omar bin al-Khattab: "to". Prophet said: "to Ohbabi". Farouk said: "Are not we loved ones, O Messenger of Allah?" Prophet said: "You are my friends, The Ohbabi who come after me and did not see me." How looking for Ezz greater glory and the blessing of Islam!!
* Are there processes preach Christianity church while you?
- I refuse to talk about preaching in the church, although I hope to be who told them the Messenger of Allah: "The best of you learn the Qur'an and teach it." I hope to be the cause of entering non-Muslims to Islam, and if we recognize that our master Jesus be our Islam underperform; therefore I refuse to go into what was going on in the church, and not even said: I hereby them washing "Dirt"; delegations Islam urged us to respect Judaism and Christianity, says God: Safe apostle in what was revealed to him from his Lord and the believers all believe in Allah and His angels, His Books, His Messengers do not differentiate between any of His messengers and say We hear and obey Your forgiveness Our Lord and determination [Baqarah: 285].
* Are you convinced Islam or could bounce him?
- Messenger of Allah say: "left in you that تمسكتم will never go astray after me, the Book of Allah and my Sunnah, and introduce the years does not belong to me." He says: "queuing up to you Nations also flock to the bowl." Said: I believe the lack of us, O Messenger of Allah? He said: "but then you lot, but you Torrent Cgthae, and emitting God in your hearts weakness." And intended to undercut the love of the world and hatred of death. Muslims have forgotten God, فأنساهم themselves.
* Have you kept the Koran? What do you think of the Muslims now?
- Saved the 4 parts of the Koran, and getting ready to finish two others, and all this thanks to God; P "because God guide your man is better for you that you have the red camels." When safest one people at the hands ascertained credibility first, that I sat down with him, and when confirmed his readiness after I told him: "If the Muslims will find the poorest of them, not weaker them; because they were oppressed Fastdafhm God, if you want to convert to Islam for ways material, it is better for you to remain in your place. " After Tigueni of belief in Islam, God guided him to the true religion.
* I was a monk banned from marriage, is still without marriage?
- Married girl man who utensils after Islamist, a darling and not Nsepe, and Lord bless it and his family and heal him of his illnesses, which Haj Mohammed Mohammed Abbas Rajab, who was working بالمطاحن and now retired, I met him by chance in Rehab master Hassan and I say this despite being a secret so do not waste the reward of the righteous, and the man told me that God blessed with three sons and three daughters, and I will be his fourth son, and said: "Your wife of my daughter." And he promised me that he will help me although everyone a simple case, and I stayed with him in his hometown of Zagazig pending the completion of a declaration of Islam, and he would say to those who see me at home: I recently his family, and came to visit them from Cairo to not exposes the embarrassment, and after the completion of the procedures established me concert Zagazig and after Spouses daughter and gave me accommodation in the arcades, and I have been working in the factories security guard, unfortunately faced some harassment of Christians who knew my story, I was working good salary in a factory, and was director Christian Vojberna to leave work to do in the Sweets in Bab sea.
* Do you have the money before Aatnaqk Islam? Where has this money gone?
- I have a stake in the place of the transit market seized upon my brothers, since he converted to Islam and until now I did not get my share in this shop, both yield profits for this period or capital, and ask only to recover my right.
** Not feel intimidated and you destroy pillars of Christianity in this way?
- I know for certain that this talk will open the fire of hell, though, so I say to my brothers non-Muslims: The religion of God is Islam, {And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam will not accept it is in the Hereafter} [Al-Imran: 85]. Though أتيقن not what I say, I swear to God I had embraced Islam.
* What about college clerical work? Any research conducted?
- Xlarkih theology is equal to the Faculty of Theology at Al-Azhar, I do not want to go study it and study it; not even say I am months the church.
Source: Egyptian newspaper Sawt al-Umma.
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